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"Nowhere is safe now". Certainly feels like it. People in the US used to say, "I'll go to Canada" but that was never as easy as many thought. And now, what would it do for you? I'm in Canada and I asked a relative, where would we go? Realistically any place could threatened by Trump or Putin, unless we went to Asia, which culturally would be too much of a shock for this old person.

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Expats may not be safe. But I would hope that those democracies which are currently home to American expats have a greater appreciation of human rights now than they may have had during World War II, when internment camps were routinely used. Those expat Americans can provide insight on what Trump and his cronies might do. We harbour no illusions whatsoever about the destruction that has been done in the US and are determined to stop the contagion from reaching our new homes.

So long as the rest of the world truly closes the door on the US through the use of trade embargoes, sanctions and the closing of overseas US bases, the united less powerful countries may yet bring the US under the Donroe Doctrine down. This is the time to reassess and recalibrate our multilateral institutions to be a collaboration among equal states who are committed to human rights and nonviolent means of solving problems; but who are not willing to back down in the face of aggression.

Trump's domestic policies are beggaring most Americans, which certainly undermines the US as a large global economic power. The imposition of severe economic and financial sanctions on US businesses could limit their ability to produce goods for domestic consumption or for export. In an interconnected world, where most of the "dirty" work and raw materials were sourced outside of the US, where recent generations of Americans are not accustomed to manual labour and where most of their goods come in on container ships operated by Danish or Chinese firms, life in the US will become awfully hard very fast. Modern weaponry depends on global supply chains which are not under US control. Without access to overseas bases, it is darned hard to be the policeman of the world.

We need to work together to address the growing global inequality ( both within our countries and among states) which erodes our democracies. In addition, we really need to quit our fossil fuel addiction and really address climate change. Ultimately, the rest of the world may need to reconsider the appropriate scale of business and economic growth in light of climate change.

We cannot afford to wait until the oligarchs see reason or they are toppled. We can stand up to aggression and can isolate them so they starve. At the same time,we just have to get on with solving the global problems that we see, even if it will not all be pleasant. But in the end, if we face the facts, and are united in our actions and uphold our values and human rights, the world will change and perhaps for the better...Two steps forward and one back.

Trump may still argue burn baby burn...But done right, global sanctions should be able to deprive him of the fuel and funds to wreck the world. He will of course continue to wreck the US, until the mobs take him down with pitchforks. At some point, Canada and the rest of the world may have to figure out how to handle American refugees, those people fleeing from war and destruction. I can only hope that we can separate the people from the oppressive government.

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